Over/Under Situational Trends

Record WAS DET
Season 75-78-8 77-77-7
vs Division 21-25-5 27-21-3
vs Conference 59-51-5 55-54-6
Streak Ov 3 Un 3
Last 5 3-2-0 0-4-1
Last 10 5-5-0 2-7-1
Home 36-39-5 34-43-3
Away 39-39-3 43-34-4

Records denote overs-unders-pushes

Washington Detailed Over/Under Performance

Date H/A/N Opponent Total Score Result +/-
03/28 Away Cincinnati 9.5 2-8 Over +0.5
03/30 Away Cincinnati 10.5 7-6 Over +2.5
03/31 Away Cincinnati 9.5 5-6 Over +1.5
04/01 Home Pittsburgh 8.5 4-8 Over +3.5
04/03 Home Pittsburgh 8.5 5-3 Under -0.5
04/04 Home Pittsburgh 8.5 4-7 Over +2.5
04/05 Home Philadelphia 8.0 0-4 Under -4.0
04/06 Home Philadelphia 8.0 2-5 Under -1.0
04/07 Home Philadelphia 7.5 3-2 Under -2.5
04/08 Away SF Giants 7.5 8-1 Over +1.5
04/09 Away SF Giants 8.5 5-3 Under -0.5
04/10 Away SF Giants 8.5 1-7 Under -0.5
04/12 Away Oakland 8.0 1-2 Under -5.0
04/13 Away Oakland 7.5 3-1 Under -3.5
04/14 Away Oakland 8.0 6-7 Over +5.0
04/15 Away LA Dodgers 8.5 6-4 Over +1.5
04/16 Away LA Dodgers 9.5 2-6 Under -1.5
04/17 Away LA Dodgers 10.0 2-0 Under -8.0
04/19 Home Houston 8.0 3-5 Push 0.0
04/20 Home Houston 9.5 5-4 Under -0.5
04/21 Home Houston 9.0 6-0 Under -3.0
04/23 Home LA Dodgers 10.0 1-4 Under -5.0
04/24 Home LA Dodgers 9.5 2-11 Over +3.5
04/25 Home LA Dodgers 7.5 1-2 Under -4.5
04/26 Away Miami 8.5 3-1 Under -4.5
04/27 Away Miami 7.5 11-4 Over +7.5
04/28 Away Miami 8.5 12-9 Over +12.5
04/29 Away Miami 8.5 7-2 Over +0.5
04/30 Away Texas 8.0 1-7 Push 0.0
05/01 Away Texas 9.0 1-0 Under -8.0
05/02 Away Texas 8.0 0-6 Under -2.0
05/03 Home Toronto 8.5 9-3 Over +3.5
05/04 Home Toronto 7.5 3-6 Over +1.5
05/05 Home Toronto 8.5 11-8 Over +10.5
05/07 Home Baltimore 8.5 3-0 Under -5.5
05/08 Home Baltimore 8.0 6-7 Over +5.0
05/10 Away Boston 8.0 5-1 Under -2.0
05/11 Away Boston 8.5 2-4 Under -2.5
05/12 Away Boston 7.5 2-3 Under -2.5
05/14 Away Chi Sox 8.0 6-3 Over +1.0
05/14 Away Chi Sox 7.5 0-4 Under -3.5
05/15 Away Chi Sox 7.0 0-2 Under -5.0
05/17 Away Philadelphia 7.5 2-4 Under -1.5
05/18 Away Philadelphia 7.0 3-4 Push 0.0
05/19 Away Philadelphia 7.5 5-11 Over +8.5
05/20 Home Minnesota 7.5 12-3 Over +7.5
05/21 Home Minnesota 8.5 0-10 Over +1.5
05/22 Home Minnesota 9.5 2-3 Under -4.5
05/24 Home Seattle 8.0 6-1 Under -1.0
05/25 Home Seattle 9.0 3-1 Under -5.0
05/26 Home Seattle 9.0 5-9 Over +5.0
05/27 Away Atlanta 9.0 8-4 Over +3.0
05/28 Away Atlanta 8.5 0-2 Under -6.5
05/29 Away Atlanta 8.5 7-2 Over +0.5
05/30 Away Atlanta 9.0 3-1 Under -5.0
05/31 Away Cleveland 7.5 1-7 Over +0.5
06/01 Away Cleveland 7.5 2-3 Under -2.5
06/02 Away Cleveland 8.0 5-2 Under -1.0
06/03 Home NY Mets 8.0 7-8 Over +7.0
06/04 Home NY Mets 9.0 3-6 Push 0.0
06/05 Home NY Mets 9.5 1-9 Over +0.5
06/06 Home Atlanta 9.0 2-5 Under -2.0
06/07 Home Atlanta 7.5 2-1 Under -4.5
06/08 Home Atlanta 8.5 7-3 Over +1.5
06/09 Home Atlanta 9.0 8-5 Over +4.0
06/11 Away Detroit 8.0 5-4 Over +1.0
06/12 Away Detroit 7.5 7-5 Over +4.5
06/13 Away Detroit 9.5 2-7 Under -0.5
06/14 Home Miami 8.5 8-1 Over +0.5
06/15 Home Miami 8.5 4-0 Under -4.5
06/16 Home Miami 8.5 3-1 Under -4.5
06/18 Home Arizona 9.0 0-5 Under -4.0
06/19 Home Arizona 9.5 3-1 Under -5.5
06/20 Home Arizona 8.5 2-5 Under -1.5
06/21 Away Colorado 11.0 11-5 Over +5.0
06/22 Away Colorado 10.5 7-8 Over +4.5
06/23 Away Colorado 10.5 2-1 Under -7.5
06/24 Away San Diego 7.5 6-7 Over +5.5
06/25 Away San Diego 7.5 7-9 Over +8.5
06/26 Away San Diego 7.5 5-8 Over +5.5
06/28 Away Tampa Bay 7.5 1-3 Under -3.5
06/29 Away Tampa Bay 7.5 8-1 Over +1.5
06/30 Away Tampa Bay 8.0 0-5 Under -3.0
07/01 Home NY Mets 8.0 7-9 Over +8.0
07/02 Home NY Mets 9.0 2-7 Push 0.0
07/03 Home NY Mets 9.0 7-5 Over +3.0
07/04 Home NY Mets 9.0 1-0 Under -8.0
07/05 Home St. Louis 9.0 6-7 Over +4.0
07/06 Home St. Louis 8.5 14-6 Over +11.5
07/07 Home St. Louis 9.0 3-8 Over +2.0
07/08 Home St. Louis 9.0 0-6 Under -3.0
07/09 Away NY Mets 8.5 5-7 Over +3.5
07/10 Away NY Mets 9.5 2-6 Under -1.5
07/11 Away NY Mets 8.5 0-7 Under -1.5
07/12 Away Milwaukee 8.0 5-2 Under -1.0
07/13 Away Milwaukee 9.0 6-5 Over +2.0
07/14 Away Milwaukee 9.0 3-9 Over +3.0
07/19 Home Cincinnati 9.5 8-5 Over +3.5
07/20 Home Cincinnati 8.0 5-4 Over +1.0
07/21 Home Cincinnati 9.0 5-2 Under -2.0
07/23 Home San Diego 9.5 0-4 Under -5.5
07/24 Home San Diego 8.5 3-12 Over +6.5
07/25 Home San Diego 9.0 0-3 Under -6.0
07/26 Away St. Louis 7.5 10-8 Over +10.5
07/27 Away St. Louis 8.5 14-3 Over +8.5
07/28 Away St. Louis 8.5 3-4 Under -1.5
07/29 Away Arizona 8.5 8-9 Over +8.5
07/30 Away Arizona 9.0 0-17 Over +8.0
07/31 Away Arizona 8.0 4-5 Over +1.0
08/02 Home Milwaukee 9.0 3-8 Over +2.0
08/03 Home Milwaukee 9.0 6-4 Over +1.0
08/04 Home Milwaukee 9.0 4-3 Under -2.0
08/05 Home SF Giants 9.0 1-4 Under -4.0
08/06 Home SF Giants 9.0 11-5 Over +7.0
08/07 Home SF Giants 7.5 4-7 Over +3.5
08/08 Home SF Giants 8.5 5-9 Over +5.5
08/09 Home LA Angels 9.0 3-2 Under -4.0
08/10 Home LA Angels 9.0 5-4 Push 0.0
08/11 Home LA Angels 9.0 4-6 Over +1.0
08/13 Away Baltimore 9.0 9-3 Over +3.0
08/14 Away Baltimore 9.0 1-4 Under -4.0
08/15 Away Philadelphia 8.0 3-13 Over +8.0
08/16 Away Philadelphia 9.5 2-3 Under -4.5
08/17 Away Philadelphia 9.0 1-5 Under -3.0
08/18 Away Philadelphia 9.5 6-4 Over +0.5
08/20 Home Colorado 8.0 1-3 Under -4.0
08/21 Home Colorado 8.0 6-1 Under -1.0
08/22 Home Colorado 8.5 8-3 Over +2.5
08/23 Away Atlanta 7.5 2-3 Under -2.5
08/24 Away Atlanta 8.0 2-4 Under -2.0
08/25 Away Atlanta 8.0 5-1 Under -2.0
08/26 Home NY Yankees 9.0 2-5 Under -2.0
08/27 Home NY Yankees 9.0 4-2 Under -3.0
08/28 Home NY Yankees 9.0 5-2 Under -2.0
08/30 Home Chi Cubs 8.0 6-7 Over +5.0
08/31 Home Chi Cubs 9.0 3-5 Under -1.0
09/01 Home Chi Cubs 9.0 1-14 Over +6.0
09/03 Away Miami 8.0 6-2 Push 0.0
09/04 Away Miami 8.5 3-4 Under -1.5
09/05 Away Pittsburgh 8.0 4-9 Over +5.0
09/07 Away Pittsburgh 8.5 5-3 Under -0.5
09/07 Away Pittsburgh 7.5 8-6 Over +6.5
09/08 Away Pittsburgh 8.5 3-7 Over +1.5
09/10 Home Atlanta 7.5 0-12 Over +4.5
09/11 Home Atlanta 8.0 5-1 Under -2.0
09/12 Home Miami 9.0 3-6 Push 0.0
09/13 Home Miami 8.0 4-1 Under -3.0
09/14 Home Miami 9.0 4-1 Under -4.0
09/15 Home Miami 8.5 4-3 Under -1.5
09/16 Away NY Mets 7.5 1-2 Under -4.5
09/17 Away NY Mets 7.5 1-10 Over +3.5
09/18 Away NY Mets 7.0 0-10 Over +3.0
09/19 Away Chi Cubs 8.5 6-7 Over +4.5
09/20 Away Chi Cubs 9.5 1-3 Under -5.5
09/21 Away Chi Cubs 8.0 5-1 Under -2.0
09/22 Away Chi Cubs 7.5 0-5 Under -2.5
09/24 Home Kansas City 7.0 0-1 Under -6.0
09/25 Home Kansas City 7.5 0-3 Under -4.5
09/26 Home Kansas City 8.5 4-7 Over +2.5
09/27 Home Philadelphia 8.5 9-1 Over +1.5
09/28 Home Philadelphia 8.0 6-3 Over +1.0

Detroit Detailed Over/Under Performance

Date H/A/N Opponent Total Score Result +/-
03/28 Away Chi Sox 7.5 1-0 Under -6.5
03/30 Away Chi Sox 8.5 7-6 Over +4.5
03/31 Away Chi Sox 7.5 3-2 Under -2.5
04/01 Away NY Mets 7.5 5-0 Under -2.5
04/04 Away NY Mets 7.5 6-3 Over +1.5
04/04 Away NY Mets 7.5 1-2 Under -4.5
04/05 Home Oakland 7.5 5-4 Over +1.5
04/06 Home Oakland 8.5 0-4 Under -4.5
04/07 Home Oakland 8.0 1-7 Push 0.0
04/08 Away Pittsburgh 8.0 4-7 Over +3.0
04/09 Away Pittsburgh 8.5 5-3 Under -0.5
04/12 Home Minnesota 7.0 8-2 Over +3.0
04/13 Home Minnesota 7.5 5-11 Over +8.5
04/13 Home Minnesota 8.5 1-4 Under -3.5
04/14 Home Minnesota 8.5 4-3 Under -1.5
04/15 Home Texas 8.5 0-1 Under -7.5
04/16 Home Texas 8.0 4-2 Under -2.0
04/17 Home Texas 7.5 4-5 Over +1.5
04/18 Home Texas 9.0 7-9 Over +7.0
04/19 Away Minnesota 7.0 5-4 Over +2.0
04/20 Away Minnesota 7.0 3-4 Push 0.0
04/21 Away Minnesota 8.0 6-1 Under -1.0
04/22 Away Tampa Bay 7.5 7-1 Over +0.5
04/23 Away Tampa Bay 8.0 4-2 Under -2.0
04/24 Away Tampa Bay 8.0 5-7 Over +4.0
04/26 Home Kansas City 8.0 0-8 Push 0.0
04/27 Home Kansas City 8.0 6-5 Over +3.0
04/28 Home Kansas City 7.5 4-1 Under -2.5
04/30 Home St. Louis 8.5 1-2 Under -5.5
04/30 Home St. Louis 8.5 11-6 Over +8.5
05/01 Home St. Louis 9.0 4-1 Under -4.0
05/03 Away NY Yankees 7.5 1-2 Under -4.5
05/04 Away NY Yankees 7.5 3-5 Over +0.5
05/05 Away NY Yankees 6.5 2-5 Over +0.5
05/06 Away Cleveland 7.0 1-2 Under -4.0
05/07 Away Cleveland 8.5 11-7 Over +9.5
05/08 Away Cleveland 7.5 4-5 Over +1.5
05/10 Home Houston 8.0 2-5 Under -1.0
05/11 Home Houston 7.5 8-2 Over +2.5
05/12 Home Houston 7.5 3-9 Over +4.5
05/13 Home Miami 9.0 6-5 Over +2.0
05/14 Home Miami 8.0 0-1 Under -7.0
05/15 Home Miami 9.0 0-2 Under -7.0
05/17 Away Arizona 8.0 13-0 Over +5.0
05/18 Away Arizona 7.5 8-3 Over +3.5
05/19 Away Arizona 9.0 4-6 Over +1.0
05/20 Away Kansas City 8.5 3-8 Over +2.5
05/21 Away Kansas City 9.0 3-10 Over +4.0
05/22 Away Kansas City 7.0 3-8 Over +4.0
05/23 Home Toronto 7.5 1-9 Over +2.5
05/24 Home Toronto 8.5 6-2 Under -0.5
05/25 Home Toronto 8.0 2-1 Under -5.0
05/26 Home Toronto 8.0 14-11 Over +17.0
05/29 Home Pittsburgh 6.5 8-0 Over +1.5
05/29 Home Pittsburgh 7.5 2-10 Over +4.5
05/30 Away Boston 7.0 5-0 Under -2.0
05/31 Away Boston 8.5 3-7 Over +1.5
06/01 Away Boston 8.5 3-6 Over +0.5
06/02 Away Boston 9.0 8-4 Over +3.0
06/03 Away Texas 7.0 2-1 Under -4.0
06/04 Away Texas 7.5 3-1 Under -3.5
06/05 Away Texas 9.0 1-9 Over +1.0
06/07 Home Milwaukee 8.5 0-10 Over +1.5
06/08 Home Milwaukee 8.0 4-5 Over +1.0
06/09 Home Milwaukee 8.0 10-2 Over +4.0
06/11 Home Washington 8.0 4-5 Over +1.0
06/12 Home Washington 7.5 5-7 Over +4.5
06/13 Home Washington 9.5 7-2 Under -0.5
06/14 Away Houston 7.0 0-4 Under -3.0
06/15 Away Houston 8.0 13-5 Over +10.0
06/16 Away Houston 8.0 1-4 Under -3.0
06/17 Away Atlanta 8.0 1-2 Under -5.0
06/18 Away Atlanta 9.0 1-2 Under -6.0
06/19 Away Atlanta 7.5 0-7 Under -0.5
06/21 Home Chi Sox 7.5 2-1 Under -4.5
06/22 Home Chi Sox 9.0 1-5 Under -3.0
06/23 Home Chi Sox 8.5 11-2 Over +4.5
06/24 Home Philadelphia 8.5 1-8 Over +0.5
06/25 Home Philadelphia 7.5 4-1 Under -2.5
06/26 Home Philadelphia 9.0 2-6 Under -1.0
06/27 Away LA Angels 8.5 0-5 Under -3.5
06/28 Away LA Angels 9.0 2-5 Under -2.0
06/29 Away LA Angels 7.5 5-6 Over +3.5
06/30 Away LA Angels 8.5 7-6 Over +4.5
07/02 Away Minnesota 7.5 3-5 Over +0.5
07/03 Away Minnesota 9.0 9-2 Over +2.0
07/04 Away Minnesota 8.0 3-12 Over +7.0
07/05 Away Cincinnati 9.0 5-4 Push 0.0
07/06 Away Cincinnati 9.0 5-3 Under -1.0
07/07 Away Cincinnati 8.0 5-1 Under -2.0
07/08 Home Cleveland 8.5 1-0 Under -7.5
07/09 Home Cleveland 8.5 8-9 Over +8.5
07/10 Home Cleveland 7.5 5-4 Over +1.5
07/11 Home Cleveland 8.0 10-1 Over +3.0
07/12 Home LA Dodgers 8.0 3-4 Under -1.0
07/13 Home LA Dodgers 9.0 11-9 Over +11.0
07/14 Home LA Dodgers 9.0 4-3 Under -2.0
07/19 Away Toronto 7.5 5-4 Over +1.5
07/20 Away Toronto 8.0 7-3 Over +2.0
07/21 Away Toronto 8.0 4-5 Over +1.0
07/22 Away Cleveland 7.0 8-2 Over +3.0
07/23 Away Cleveland 8.5 4-5 Over +0.5
07/24 Away Cleveland 7.0 1-2 Under -4.0
07/25 Away Cleveland 7.5 3-0 Under -4.5
07/26 Home Minnesota 7.5 3-9 Over +4.5
07/27 Home Minnesota 6.5 7-2 Over +2.5
07/28 Home Minnesota 7.5 0-5 Under -2.5
07/29 Home Cleveland 7.5 4-8 Over +4.5
07/30 Home Cleveland 8.0 0-5 Under -3.0
08/01 Home Kansas City 8.5 1-7 Under -0.5
08/02 Home Kansas City 7.0 2-9 Over +4.0
08/03 Home Kansas City 9.0 6-5 Over +2.0
08/04 Home Kansas City 8.5 2-3 Under -3.5
08/06 Away Seattle 7.5 4-2 Under -1.5
08/07 Away Seattle 6.0 6-2 Over +2.0
08/08 Away Seattle 7.0 3-4 Push 0.0
08/09 Away SF Giants 7.5 2-3 Under -2.5
08/10 Away SF Giants 7.5 1-3 Under -3.5
08/11 Away SF Giants 8.0 5-4 Over +1.0
08/13 Home Seattle 7.0 15-1 Over +9.0
08/14 Home Seattle 8.0 3-2 Under -3.0
08/15 Home Seattle 8.5 2-1 Under -5.5
08/16 Home NY Yankees 8.5 0-3 Under -5.5
08/17 Home NY Yankees 9.0 4-0 Under -5.0
08/18 Home NY Yankees 8.0 3-2 Under -3.0
08/20 Away Chi Cubs 7.5 1-3 Under -3.5
08/21 Away Chi Cubs 7.5 8-2 Over +2.5
08/22 Away Chi Cubs 7.5 2-10 Over +4.5
08/23 Away Chi Sox 8.5 5-2 Under -1.5
08/24 Away Chi Sox 8.0 13-4 Over +9.0
08/25 Away Chi Sox 9.0 9-4 Over +4.0
08/26 Away Chi Sox 9.0 6-3 Push 0.0
08/27 Home LA Angels 9.5 6-2 Under -1.5
08/28 Home LA Angels 9.0 3-2 Under -4.0
08/29 Home LA Angels 9.0 0-3 Under -6.0
08/30 Home Boston 8.5 5-7 Over +3.5
08/31 Home Boston 7.5 2-1 Under -4.5
09/01 Home Boston 9.5 4-1 Under -4.5
09/02 Away San Diego 8.0 0-3 Under -5.0
09/04 Away San Diego 8.0 5-6 Over +3.0
09/05 Away San Diego 8.0 4-3 Under -1.0
09/06 Away Oakland 7.0 6-7 Over +6.0
09/07 Away Oakland 8.0 2-1 Under -5.0
09/08 Away Oakland 8.0 9-1 Over +2.0
09/10 Home Colorado 8.5 11-0 Over +2.5
09/11 Home Colorado 8.0 7-4 Over +3.0
09/12 Home Colorado 7.0 2-4 Under -1.0
09/13 Home Baltimore 8.0 1-0 Under -7.0
09/14 Home Baltimore 8.0 2-4 Under -2.0
09/15 Home Baltimore 8.5 4-2 Under -2.5
09/16 Away Kansas City 8.0 7-6 Over +5.0
09/17 Away Kansas City 8.0 3-1 Under -4.0
09/18 Away Kansas City 8.0 4-2 Under -2.0
09/20 Away Baltimore 7.5 1-7 Over +0.5
09/21 Away Baltimore 8.5 6-4 Over +1.5
09/22 Away Baltimore 8.5 4-3 Under -1.5
09/24 Home Tampa Bay 6.5 2-1 Under -3.5
09/25 Home Tampa Bay 8.0 7-1 Push 0.0
09/26 Home Tampa Bay 8.0 4-3 Under -1.0
09/27 Home Chi Sox 7.0 4-1 Under -2.0
09/28 Home Chi Sox 7.5 0-4 Under -3.5
Total 9.5 Open 8.0 High 9.5
Last 9.0 Low 7.5

Line Movement

The chart above graphs odds data from a leading global sportsbook. Chart times are your local time zone.

Historical Results of Games with Similar Lines

Since the start of the 2020 MLB season there have been 5213 games with over/under lines between 8.5 and 10.5. In these games:

  • Games have gone over the line 2447 times (46.9%).
  • Games have gone under the line 2559 times (49.1%).
  • Games have pushed the line 207 times (4.0%).

Historical Results of Games with Similar Line Movement

Since the start of the 2022 MLB season there have been 20 games where the closing over/under line was 1.5 points higher than the opening over/under line.

In these games, the over performed better, going 11-8-1 (57.9%). Game totals went over the line by an average of 0.9 points.

Totals History

The table below lists odds from three leading global sportsbooks. Times below are Eastern time zone.

  Book 1 Book 2 Book 3
Current 9.5 6.0 --
Open 8.0 8.5 --
History
06/13 03:08 PM -- 6.0 --
06/13 01:07 PM 9.5 -- --
06/13 01:01 PM 9.5 -- --
06/13 12:49 PM 9.5 -- --
06/13 12:37 PM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:37 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:28 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:19 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:16 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:10 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 11:10 AM -- 9.5 --
06/13 11:04 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 10:55 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 10:52 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 10:43 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 10:40 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 10:07 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:49 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:40 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:35 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:25 AM 9.5 -- --
06/13 09:19 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:16 AM -- 9.0 --
06/13 09:13 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:04 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 09:02 AM -- 9.0 --
06/13 09:01 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 08:53 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 08:45 AM -- 9.0 --
06/13 08:31 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 06:56 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 04:04 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 03:08 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 02:56 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 02:41 AM -- 9.0 --
06/13 02:31 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 02:30 AM -- 8.5 --
06/13 01:58 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 01:16 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 12:29 AM 9.0 -- --
06/13 12:01 AM 9.0 -- --
06/12 11:40 PM -- 9.0 --
06/12 10:46 PM 9.0 -- --
06/12 10:37 PM 9.0 -- --
06/12 10:17 PM 8.5 -- --
06/12 10:11 PM 8.5 -- --
06/12 06:40 PM -- 8.5 --
06/12 06:17 PM 8.5 -- --
06/12 06:05 PM 8.5 -- --
06/12 05:10 PM 8.0 -- --